{"id":9285,"date":"2019-11-07T16:20:20","date_gmt":"2019-11-07T23:20:20","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/?p=9285"},"modified":"2019-11-07T16:20:20","modified_gmt":"2019-11-07T23:20:20","slug":"naomi-no-evidence-oreskes-careful-for-what-you-wish-for-pt-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/?p=9285","title":{"rendered":"Naomi &#8220;no evidence&#8221; Oreskes &#8211; careful for what you wish for, Pt 2"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Naomi Oreskes&#8217; appearance at a 10\/23\/19 House hearing on the topic of &#8220;the oil industry\u2019s climate denial campaign&#8221; wasn&#8217;t a one-time event. She reappeared six days later at a Senate &#8220;hearing,&#8221; where her Prepared Written Testimony contained the identical blunders I detailed <a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/?p=9222\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">in Part 1<\/a> of this two-part blog post. Unlike the House hearing, she and the others at this &#8220;hearing&#8221; offered truly bizarre and comically self-damaging statements without fear of anyone questioning them.<!--more--><\/p>\n<p>First, a quick glance at Oreskes&#8217; repeat of the blunders in her <a href=\"https:\/\/www.democrats.senate.gov\/imo\/media\/doc\/Naomi_Oreskes_Testimony.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Prepared Written Testimony<\/a> (it&#8217;s so much of a copy &#8216;n paste, <a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/Oreskes-Oct-23-testimonies-1024x523.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">she forgot to change the date<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p><img src=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/Oreskes-Senate-blunders-Redux.jpg\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Regarding her odd reference to <a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/GF-pt1-Informed-blunder.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">an unused name<\/a> and unwise <a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/GF-pt1-media-WFA-blunders.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">references to the Western Fuels Association<\/a>, please see <a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/?p=9222\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Part 1<\/a> on how these were errors begging for deeper examination. Quite unwise of her to draw more attention to them at this Senate <a href=\"https:\/\/www.democrats.senate.gov\/climate\/hearings\/climate-crisis-committee-to-hold-hearing-on-dark-money-and-climate-change\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Dark Money and Climate Change<\/a> &#8220;hearing.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>I put &#8220;hearing&#8221; in quote marks because this wasn&#8217;t a standard Senate committee hearing. It&#8217;s a &#8220;Special Group&#8221; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.democrats.senate.gov\/newsroom\/press-releases\/in-wake-of-senate-republicans-refusal-to-take-action-on-climate-crisis-schumer-launches-new-senate-democratic-special-committee-on-the-climate-crisis\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">with no GOP Senators members<\/a>, thus there&#8217;s no expectation that unsupportable statements or the credibility of their &#8216;expert witnesses&#8217; will be objectively questioned. Give this &#8220;group&#8221; credit for having <a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/CrisisComm-goals.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">the same mission<\/a> as the United Nation&#8217;s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate change about <a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/IPCC-goals-1024x515.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">a foregone conclusion<\/a> that man-caused global warming needs to be mitigated.<\/p>\n<p>These sort of gatherings are sometimes called &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.lexico.com\/en\/definition\/kangaroo_court\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">kangaroo courts<\/a>.&#8221; So, when Naomi Oreskes said (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=AxaICTiNKvY&amp;t=2724\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">45:24 point<\/a> in this Special Group discussion) \u2026..<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>I came to this issue <strong>because I wrote a book<\/strong> that was partly about the relationship between climate change denial and the tobacco industry \u2026.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>\u2026.. nobody at the Senate Special Group discussion asked what prompted her to write <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Merchants-Doubt-Handful-Scientists-Obscured\/dp\/1608193942\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">&#8220;Merchants of Doubt&#8221;<\/a> in the first place. The statement is as ridiculous as Al Gore saying he got into the issue because he made a movie about it.<\/p>\n<p>Three days later (bestowed now with &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/EE-star-academic.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">star academic<\/a>&#8221; status), she strangely offered <a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/EE-Oreskes-Conway-investigates.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">a similar simplistic explanation<\/a> at an Environment &amp; Energy News &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.eenews.net\/stories\/1061434845\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">&#8216;Merchants of Doubt&#8217; author advises Congress on Big Oil<\/a>&#8221; article interview, about her discoveries of a &#8216;climate change denial \/ tobacco industry relationship&#8217;:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>I discovered this connection by accident. I didn&#8217;t set out to write a book about tobacco. But when [co-author] Erik Conway and I started looking into Fred Seitz\u00a0 \u2026<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>That&#8217;s <em>weird<\/em>. Oreskes&#8217; far more routinely repeated tale of what brought her into the global warming issue (e.g. <a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/Oreskes-standard-tale-Oct-19.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">this retelling<\/a> weeks earlier <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nybooks.com\/daily\/2019\/10\/18\/i-cant-just-stand-on-the-sidelines-an-interview-with-naomi-oreskes\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">in an interview<\/a> about her newest book) is how she: <strong>1)<\/strong> wrote a paper on the 100% consensus on global warming science; <strong>2)<\/strong> was attacked about her paper&#8217;s conclusion; <strong>3)<\/strong> and was told at a <strong><em>subsequent conference event<\/em><\/strong> who her primary attacker was by Erik Conway. As I&#8217;ve <a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/?p=5917\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">already detailed<\/a>, this specific conference event took place at least <strong><em>five months prior<\/em><\/strong> to any attacks she received.<\/p>\n<p>Imagine the fallout at the next fully attended Congressional hearing, or at a global warming lawsuit courtroom hearing, if she&#8217;s required \u2014 under oath \u2014 to defend her standard tale of what prompted her entry into the issue.<\/p>\n<p>Not helping her insinuations at the Senate Special Group discussion about the existence of an oil industry disinformation campaign was the following from Senator Sheldon Whitehouse (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=AxaICTiNKvY&amp;t=200\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">3:20 point<\/a>). He oddly illustrated a far larger problem besieging those who assert that conspiracy notion:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u2026. <strong>What instructions did fossil fuel companies give<\/strong> to front groups about opposing laws and regulations and did that break the laws for non-profit tax-exempt status? <span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">We don\u2019t know<\/span>. <strong>How exactly did the fossil fuel industry deploy its front groups and trade associations<\/strong> to purposefully spread disinformation about climate science? <span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">We don\u2019t know<\/span>. \u2026. None of this information is privileged. All of it is amenable to congressional subpoena.\u00a0 &#8230;.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Rest assured, if &#8216;Big Oil executives&#8217; instructed propagandists to spread disinformation, Congress&#8217;ll find it.<\/p>\n<p>Not helping the situation at all, Prof. Justin Farrell offered the following response to Oreskes&#8217; point on &#8216;inoculating the public&#8217; against fossil fuel industry disinformation, at the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=AxaICTiNKvY&amp;t=2465\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">41:05 point<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u2026 Even inoculation <span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">requires that we know who the bad actors are<\/span>, right? That&#8217;s where <span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">we need better data<\/span>, and that&#8217;s where <span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">we need more transparency, and access to information<\/span>, as Senator Whitehouse was saying from the opening, so there is excitement around public inoculation theory, but again I think <span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">it would really help if we knew who to inoculate against<\/span>.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Oreskes herself inadvertently contributed to this problem, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=AxaICTiNKvY&amp;t=916\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">15:16 point<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Exxonmobil is just one part of a large disinformation landscape. Because of loopholes in our laws, particularly those that permit dark money contributions, <span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">we lack basic information about who is behind much of this. <strong>Who coordinates these talking points?<\/strong> Who comes up with these misleading claims?<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><em><strong>Twice<\/strong><\/em>. The second time at the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=AxaICTiNKvY&amp;t=3231\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">53:51 point<\/a>, responding to Senator Schatz&#8217;s question about when fossil fuel companies realized their &#8216;climate denial&#8217; was untenable:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8230; <span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">we don&#8217;t have access<\/span>, as Justin has been saying, <span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">we don&#8217;t have access to the internal documents<\/span>. I mean, I was able to write the book I wrote really because of the work of the state Attorneys General that exposed the tobacco industry&#8217;s malfeasance, we had a huge rich documentary record on that. <span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">We don&#8217;t know as much about what&#8217;s going on inside Exxonmobil or Chevron headquarters today<\/span> \u2026<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Did you hear <strong><em>that<\/em><\/strong>??? Her Merchants of Doubt book compared the disinformation tactics of the tobacco industry to the fossil fuel industry, while she basically admitted there&#8217;s no evidence to prove any such disinformation efforts exist within the fossil fuel industry.<\/p>\n<p>Senator Whitehouse further reinforced at the what the overall problem is, while opining how the &#8220;Citizens United&#8221; Supreme Court decision resulted in new dark money contributions to political candidates. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=AxaICTiNKvY&amp;t=3556\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">59:15 point<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Even if you know about the unlimited money spending, and even if you can get information about the unlimited dark money spending and dig that information out, <span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">the hardest part is too try to figure out about the conversations that took place<\/span> powered by the unlimited dark money capability these special interests have. <span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">The hardest thing to find around here is the small room where the lobbyist and the candidate met, and the lobbyist said &#8220;we are coming after you, you are toast, if you don&#8217;t do what we say.<\/span>&#8220;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>He concluded that such &#8220;threats&#8221; are &#8220;<em>going to be really hard to dig out<\/em>.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>In other words, &#8220;<em>trust us, we know these guys are guilty, and we&#8217;ll prove it when we find the evidence<\/em>.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Solidifying that problem at the end of the &#8220;hearing,&#8221; Congressional Scholar witness Morton Rosenberg speculated at the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=AxaICTiNKvY&amp;t=3986\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">1:06:26 point<\/a> on what Congressional investigation might finally prompt:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Let me just add one thing about persistence. Your committee and other committees continue to be persistent \u2026 and <strong>what&#8217;s happening now with the impeachment pressures<\/strong>, it will be people who will open up, for those doors, and come in, <span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">whistle blower types that will come and say, &#8220;yes, this is what I heard, here is what we did, here&#8217;s the paper, here&#8217;s the conversation<\/span>.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Right. How&#8217;s that Ukrainian whistle blower situation working out, as one more zombie-like attack in a succession of efforts (Billy Bush &#8220;Access Hollywood&#8221; tapes \/ IRS tax returns \/ emoluments clause violations \/ inconsistent Korean diplomacy \/ Russian collusion \/ Ukrainian phone call, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/search?&amp;q=compilation+of+trump+scandals\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><em>ad nauseam<\/em><\/a>) to steer the greater public into disfavoring President Trump?<\/p>\n<p>Wait \u2026 &#8220;<strong><em>zombie-like<\/em><\/strong>?<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=AxaICTiNKvY&amp;t=742\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">12:22 point<\/a> of this Senate Special Group discussion, from Naomi Oreskes:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The role of third party allies was on full display last week in hearings of the House Committee on Oversight, where Republican members invited as a witness the founder and president of Energy 45. Energy 45 is part a group known as the CO2Coalition. <span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">They illustrate a strategy I call &#8220;<strong>zombie denialism<\/strong>,&#8221; in which old players and arguments reappear in new forms<\/span>. \u2026 a leader in climate change disinformation was the George C. Marshall Institute. The Institute closed in 2015, only to re-emerge a few years later as the CO2Coalition. \u2026<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The executive director of <a href=\"http:\/\/co2coalition.org\/about\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">the CO2Coalition<\/a> tells me that is not an accurate statement.<\/p>\n<p>But what she said <em><strong>is<\/strong><\/em> pure psychological projection of what her side of the issue has been doing from 1991 right up to the present time, with their regurgitations of <em>ye olde<\/em> &#8220;reposition global warming as theory rather than fact&#8221; leaked memos as evidence of a fossil fuel industry disinformation efforts. Oreskes is a somewhat old &#8220;player&#8221; in that regurgitation list at the #28 spot <a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/?p=1480\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">here<\/a>, but she&#8217;s essentially in &#8216;new form&#8217; at the #36 spot, and technically she may be shifting into another &#8216;new form&#8217; in this exact Senate Special Group discussion when she said (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=AxaICTiNKvY&amp;t=2295\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">38:15 point<\/a>, regarding the history of fossil fuel industry disinformation efforts):<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>We know <span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">from their own industry <strong>strategy documents<\/strong><\/span> that the whole point of disinformation was to confuse the American people and undermine support for action, and <strong>we have a great deal of documentary evidence on this<\/strong>.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>As in the <a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/Arnold-corroborates2.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">never-used <strong>strategy<\/strong><\/a> so many accusers wrongly attribute to Western Fuels&#8217; tiny &#8220;ICE&#8221; PR campaign, the one she&#8217;s misidentified two times in a row in her Prepared Written Testimonies under its never-used name?<\/p>\n<p><img src=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/Informed-reposit-Mission-Strat.jpg\" \/><\/p>\n<p>And wait a moment, didn&#8217;t she and the others say they didn&#8217;t have access to documents that expose the specific workings behind the alleged disinformation efforts?<\/p>\n<p>Good thing there wasn&#8217;t a GOP Senate member at this discussion to ask her which &#8220;<em>industry strategy documents&#8221;<\/em> she was talking about.<\/p>\n<p>What do you do when you know a group is guilty but can&#8217;t yet prove it after two decades? You go on a fishing expedition, like Oreskes suggests (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=AxaICTiNKvY&amp;t=940\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">15:40 point<\/a>):<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The tobacco industry was prosecuted by the U.S. Department of Justice under the RICO statutes, in part because of the ways in which individual companies coordinated with each other and with third party allies to present false information to consumers. <strong>I believe it is time for Congress to investigate the fossil fuel network<\/strong>, as Congress and the Department of Justice investigated the Tobacco network.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>She <a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/EEOreskes-suggest-investigages.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">suggested this again<\/a>, for good measure, at the above-noted &#8220;&#8216;Merchants of Doubt&#8217; author advises Congress on Big Oil&#8221; E&amp;E News article:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em>E&amp;E:<\/em> Where should the Oversight and Reform Committee take its investigation next? Which witnesses should it call?<\/p>\n<p><em>Oreskes:<\/em> I think it&#8217;s incredibly important for the committee to investigate not only the fossil fuel industry itself but also the network of third-party allies that have been involved with this. \u2026 I remember watching the tobacco executives testify on TV, and it was a sea-change moment. It really exposed to the American people just how incredibly <strong><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">cynical<\/span><\/strong> these people are.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>&#8220;<strong><em>Cynical<\/em><\/strong>?&#8221; Who coordinates these talking points?<\/p>\n<p>Not exactly a good idea to be connected in any way to a set of <a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/?p=7477\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">worthless-as-evidence<\/a> &#8216;leaked memos&#8217; \u2026<\/p>\n<p><img src=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/Oreskes-PPT-strat-target2.jpg\" \/><\/p>\n<p>\u2026 while channeling Al Gore on the word &#8220;<span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">cynical<\/span>&#8221; \u2026<\/p>\n<p><img src=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/Gore-Exx-cynical-reposit2.jpg\" \/><\/p>\n<p>\u2026 and Ross Gelbspan \u2026<\/p>\n<p><img src=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/PBS-NOW-Gelb-cynical-reposit-1024x706.jpg\" \/><\/p>\n<p>\u2026 and, well \u2026 Al Gore again, circa his 1992 book \u2026\u2026<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"\" src=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/ERitBal-cynical-targeting.jpg\" width=\"527\" height=\"614\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Congress should investigate disinformation campaigns? Naomi Oreskes should be more careful for what she wishes for. That might backfire to such an extent that she&#8217;ll wish she <a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/Oreskes-sage-advice.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">hadn&#8217;t thrown away a science career to become a &#8216;historian of science.&#8217;<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Naomi Oreskes&#8217; appearance at a 10\/23\/19 House hearing on the topic of &#8220;the oil industry\u2019s climate denial campaign&#8221; wasn&#8217;t a one-time event. She reappeared six days later at a Senate &#8220;hearing,&#8221; where her Prepared Written Testimony contained the identical blunders &hellip; <a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/?p=9285\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[152,18],"tags":[107,80,97],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9285"}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=9285"}],"version-history":[{"count":53,"href":"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9285\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":9346,"href":"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9285\/revisions\/9346"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=9285"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=9285"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=9285"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}