{"id":6042,"date":"2017-12-21T16:37:29","date_gmt":"2017-12-21T23:37:29","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/?p=6042"},"modified":"2019-05-24T13:49:10","modified_gmt":"2019-05-24T20:49:10","slug":"how-do-you-prompt-your-fellow-climate-scientists-to-discount-other-scientist-critics","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/?p=6042","title":{"rendered":"How do you prompt your Fellow Climate Scientists to discount other Scientist Critics?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Steer them to material which portrays those scientist critics as &#8216;paid shills who spew lies on behalf of planet-destroying industrialists.&#8217;<!--more--><\/p>\n<p>I stumble into things sometimes. Upon having the need to update my <a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/?page_id=3834\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">bias count ratio for the PBS NewsHour<\/a> with a link to this <a href=\"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/newshour\/show\/climate-change-is-part-of-californias-perfect-recipe-for-intense-wildfire\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">discussion segment<\/a> featuring a pair of scientists from the Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory, the name &#8220;Lamont-Doherty&#8221; was distinctive enough that I recognized it right away after subsequently running across Lamont-Doherty paleoceanographer\/marine geologist <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ldeo.columbia.edu\/user\/raymo\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Maureen Raymo<\/a> in an entirely unrelated and rather spontaneously-chosen internet search.<\/p>\n<p>Allow me to unfold it this way: Dr Raymo has her own <a href=\"http:\/\/moraymo.us\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">personal website<\/a> filled with pure science material. No indication of anything remotely political. If you plop the word &#8220;links&#8221; straight into the website address for her like this, <a href=\"http:\/\/moraymo.us\/links\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">http:\/\/moraymo.us\/links<\/a>, and then click on it to see what happens, you get a &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/12\/RaymoOops.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">not found<\/a>&#8221; result.<\/p>\n<p>But that doesn&#8217;t mean such a page at her site never existed. The <a href=\"http:\/\/web.archive.org\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Internet Archive<\/a> organization captured what she used to have for her links page, dating from <a href=\"http:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20120502010625\/http:\/\/moraymo.us:80\/links.php\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">May 2012 and earlier<\/a>. Who is prominently featured in her &#8220;Climate Research \/ Science Links&#8221; section, <a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/12\/Raymo-Gelb-1024x690.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">right above the suggestion<\/a> to go see Al Gore&#8217;s science movie?<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Ross Gelbspan, a journalist\/activist committed to stopping global warming published <span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">a super book<\/span> on the global climate crisis &#8220;The Heat is On&#8221;. He also maintains a web site The heat is online. See what he is up to.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The problem for Raymo doesn&#8217;t end here. Right above the blurb about Gelbspan is Dr Raymo&#8217;s suggestion to read Spencer Weart&#8217;s book <a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/12\/Raymo-Weart.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">and visit his website<\/a>. Click on her <a href=\"http:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20120512014447\/http:\/\/www.aip.org\/history\/climate\/index.htm\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">old link to his site<\/a> and it takes you to a place with a multitude of links. But click on <a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/12\/Weart-PubClim-2.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">the #2 link<\/a> for Weart&#8217;s &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20120523181411\/http:\/\/www.aip.org\/history\/climate\/public2.htm\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">The Public and Climate Change, part 2<\/a>&#8221; section, and <strong><em>very deep<\/em><\/strong> into that, who do we see as his source about corporate interests skewing the issue via &#8216;unnecessary media balance?&#8217; <a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/12\/Weart-Gelb.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Ross Gelbspan<\/a>. (for readers unaware of it, I dissected that latter wipeout <a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/?p=1886\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">here<\/a>)<\/p>\n<p>This links page by Raymo plausibly indicates how the suggestion about Gelbspan might have been infiltrated into Lamont-Doherty overall as the excuse for dismissing skeptic climate scientists out-of-hand. Minus any mention of problems with Ross Gelbspan&#8217;s &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/?p=963\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">science expertise<\/a>,&#8221; or that there might be any concern about Al Gore&#8217;s &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.telegraph.co.uk\/news\/earth\/earthnews\/3310137\/Al-Gores-nine-Inconvenient-Untruths.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">science presentation<\/a>,&#8221; of course. As I implied in an <a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/?p=671\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">older blog post here<\/a>, it&#8217;s equally plausible that this sort of endorsement is how the &#8216;crooked skeptics&#8217; accusation was fed into the entire Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change effectively enough that the IPCC Vice Chair once said atmospheric physicist Dr S. Fred Singer was <a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/vanYpersele-Singer-11.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">not to be trusted for that &#8216;corruption&#8217; reason<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Interesting how Dr Raymo&#8217;s links page disappeared after May 2012. One more thing to file under &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/?cat=15\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">information burial<\/a>&#8221; and under my <a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/?cat=35\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">blog category collection<\/a> for anyone separated from Gelbspan&#8217;s accusation by three degrees or less.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Steer them to material which portrays those scientist critics as &#8216;paid shills who spew lies on behalf of planet-destroying industrialists.&#8217;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[15,35],"tags":[149],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6042"}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=6042"}],"version-history":[{"count":9,"href":"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6042\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":8585,"href":"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6042\/revisions\/8585"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=6042"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=6042"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=6042"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}