{"id":12290,"date":"2021-07-29T16:02:07","date_gmt":"2021-07-29T23:02:07","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/?p=12290"},"modified":"2023-02-14T12:25:33","modified_gmt":"2023-02-14T19:25:33","slug":"ask-one-tough-question-and-particular-accusation-pushers-flee-in-terror","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/?p=12290","title":{"rendered":"Ask One Tough Question, and Particular Accusation-pushers Flee in Terror \u2026."},"content":{"rendered":"<p>\u2026 which is a hint for energy company defendant lawyers and objective news reporters to deeply consider. If &#8220;li&#8217;l ol&#8217; private citizen me&#8221; can apparently prompt such a response, imagine what official investigators with far more influence or subpoena power can accomplish.<!--more--><\/p>\n<p>Today&#8217;s blog post needs just a bit of setup on what led to it. First, I glance through Anthony Watts&#8217; WUWT blog on a daily basis to see what&#8217;s new in the global warming issue, and on July 14th, I saw Eric Worrall&#8217;s guest post &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/wattsupwiththat.com\/2021\/07\/14\/gizmodo-tv-keeps-bumping-climate-scientist-katharine-hayhoe\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Gizmodo: Cable TV Keeps Bumping Climate Scientist Katharine Hayhoe<\/a>&#8221; (Dr Hayhoe, incidentally, <a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/Hayhoe-Twit-flees.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">flees in terror<\/a> behind <a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/Hayhoe-Twit-still-blocks.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Twitter account blockage<\/a> when asked tough questions about her &#8216;<a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/07\/Hayhoe-no-authorize-1024x643.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">science debate requirements<\/a>&#8216;). Slave to temptation that I am, I decided to contact the Gizmodo author directly on how the central premise of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.gizmodo.com.au\/2021\/07\/why-tv-is-so-bad-at-covering-climate-change\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">her article<\/a> &#8211; that <a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/TV-is-bad-on-AGW.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">TV news does a bad job<\/a> of covering the &#8216;climate crisis&#8217; &#8211; was a false premise. I usually do this with online &#8216;journalists&#8217; via Twitter when they post their article links at their accounts, and did so <a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/props-to-Taft.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">in this situation<\/a> on July 15th (Gizmodo author&#8217;s <em>almost<\/em> full context thread link <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/mollytaft\/status\/1415303778006413314\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">here<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p>Further down the Gizmodo author&#8217;s Twitter thread on that day was a reply by &#8216;some person&#8217; (<a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/some-Twit-Chick-liller-ad.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">the one I casually noted<\/a> as a problematic example in my <a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/?p=12252\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">prior blog post<\/a>) whose reaction to the line in the Gizmodo article near the end about &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/Taft-lil-chicken-ref.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><em>it feels a little like climate reporters are like Chicken Little, yelling constantly that the sky is falling<\/em><\/a>&#8221; was something similar to &#8216;<em>I feel this way too, sometimes<\/em>\u2019\u2026.. while also including an image that looked pretty much like this:<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"aligncenter\" src=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/ClimFilesChicken-Little.jpg\" width=\"457\" height=\"532\" \/><\/p>\n<p>That&#8217;s the &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/Chick-more-cropped.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><em>even more cropped version<\/em><\/a>&#8221; I mentioned in my prior blog post. Where does that exact worse-cropped image source from? Kert Davies&#8217; <a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/ClimFiles-Chicken-worse-cropped.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Climate Files website<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>But why do I have to state &#8220;<em>by saying something similar to<\/em>&#8221; \/ &#8220;<em>an image that looked pretty much like<\/em>&#8221; regarding that guy&#8217;s Tweet? Because <a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/Twit-hides-Chicken-Little.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong><em>it ain&#8217;t there anymore<\/em><\/strong> for unapproved public viewing<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>It <strong>was there<\/strong> on July 15th, and I made a mental note about including it for my then-upcoming blog post as an illustration of how so many global warming &#8216;reporters&#8217; and ordinary people are enslaved to talking points tied to <a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/?p=7477\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">the &#8220;reposition global warming&#8221; memo set<\/a>, including related points about newspaper ads supposedly tied straight to the memo set&#8217;s &#8216;disinformation efforts.&#8217; I figured he was just an ordinary Twitter user with a name I didn&#8217;t recognize at all who had <a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/Moler-Twit-profile.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">an unremarkable profile section<\/a> and lots of Tweets about stuff I didn&#8217;t care about.<\/p>\n<p>When I wanted to get a screencapture of his tweet for my prior blog post, however, I was surprised how it disappeared, <a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/some-Twit-hides-Chick-liller-ad.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">and I noted that<\/a> shortly before I posted that blog. Still thinking the guy was nobody in particular, I gave serious thought to including him in <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/GelbspanFiles\/status\/1417636965764124674\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">my Tweet announcement<\/a> about my post as a sort of hint that, while his post is gone from public viewing, the faults with that cropped Chicken Little ad remain. However, it&#8217;s always wise to triple check who a person is before taking such an action, so rather than do a simple internet search for the name appearing on his Twitter profile by itself, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/search?&amp;q=%22Kyle+Moler%22+%22climate+change%22\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">I included the words &#8220;climate change&#8221; in combination<\/a> with it.<\/p>\n<p>Thus my post-publication addition of the asterisk link <a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/THAT-Kyle-Moler.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">of who the person is<\/a>. The August 2019 report I linked to is <a href=\"https:\/\/mfgaccountabilityproject.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/08\/NAM_manufacturers_accountability_report_ch3_final.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">here<\/a>, and it says <a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/MR-KMoler.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">on page 7<\/a>, regarding the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.mrss.com\/about\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">M+R public relations services company<\/a> and Kyle Moler,<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>M+R acts as a lynchpin between the offshoots of the climate litigation campaign. It managed the public relations around <strong>Naomi Oreskes<\/strong> and Geoffrey Supran&#8217;s paper, and spearheaded communications for the Center for Climate Integrity&#8217;s (CCI) &#8220;<strong>Pay Up Climate Polluters<\/strong>&#8221; campaign &#8230; <span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">Kyle Moler<\/span>, senior strategist in M+R\u2019s Washington D.C. office, <span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">is the point of contact for<\/span> CCI&#8217;s <span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">Pay Up Climate Polluters<\/span> campaign <span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">and<\/span> on the press release for <span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">Oreskes<\/span> and Supran\u2019s paper.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Yep, <em>that<\/em> Naomi Oreskes with her own <a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/OreskesPPT-08.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">&#8220;reposition global warming&#8221; memo set<\/a> \/ wrong ICE name <a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/OreskesPPT-08-ChickLil.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Chicken Little ad enslavement<\/a> and <em>that<\/em> <a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/payupclimatepolluters-reposit-from-Davies.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">&#8220;Pay Up&#8221; group<\/a> (who source their accusation from Kert Davies&#8217; <a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/CIC-Davies-ClimFiles.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">CIC website<\/a>, but apparently &#8216;didn&#8217;t the memo&#8217; that the name they attribute to the newspaper ads was <a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/NYT-advice-unsold.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">never used<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p>Past tense about Moler at M+R, however. Two months later <a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/Kyle-Moler-LinkedIn-7-21-21.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">in October 2019<\/a> he started working at whatever the &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.littlething.co\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Little Thing<\/a>&#8221; place is, which, when you click on its downarrow at the bottom of its otherwise monstrously uninformative <a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/LilThing-home-page.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">two-word website homepage<\/a>, it only moves down the same page which doesn&#8217;t share anything more with the public than what <a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/LilThing-progressive-act.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">their political services are<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>After a year and 10 months, that&#8217;s all the more he can share at his website? And <a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/Moler-Twit-profile-from-2011.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">after a bit more than an entire decade<\/a>, he closes off his Twitter account from general public viewing 12 or 13 days ago possibly because one lone blogger asks him a tough question about an old, strangely cropped newspaper ad he posted?<\/p>\n<p>There are weaknesses everywhere within the &#8216;man-caused global warming&#8217; issue. Weak science points, really weak corruption accusations against skeptic climate scientists, and particular individuals who are potentially the weakest links in the chain of people promulgating the &#8216;corrupt skeptic scientists&#8217; accusation, who might quite likely <a href=\"https:\/\/www.merriam-webster.com\/dictionary\/state%27s%20evidence\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">turn state&#8217;s evidence<\/a> against the others to save their own skins when real reporters and\/or attorneys start asking really tough questions.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u2026 which is a hint for energy company defendant lawyers and objective news reporters to deeply consider. If &#8220;li&#8217;l ol&#8217; private citizen me&#8221; can apparently prompt such a response, imagine what official investigators with far more influence or subpoena power &hellip; <a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/?p=12290\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[112,38],"tags":[182,46],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/12290"}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=12290"}],"version-history":[{"count":21,"href":"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/12290\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":12314,"href":"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/12290\/revisions\/12314"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=12290"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=12290"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=12290"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}