{"id":10661,"date":"2020-08-31T21:35:48","date_gmt":"2020-09-01T04:35:48","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/?p=10661"},"modified":"2024-08-30T11:44:46","modified_gmt":"2024-08-30T18:44:46","slug":"the-big-ben-santer-problem-pt-4-if-everyone-was-in-total-agreement-why-would-there-be-any-need-to-change-anything","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/?p=10661","title":{"rendered":"The Big Ben Santer Problem, Pt 4: If Everyone was in Total Agreement, Why Would there be Any Need to Change Anything?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>To briefly recap the salient points of Naomi Oreskes&#8217; tale of how Dr Ben Santer (<a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/?p=5917\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">as opposed to Erik Conway<\/a>) was the catalyst leading her to expose skeptic climate scientists as &#8216;corporate-paid\/corrupted merchants of doubt&#8217;: she innocently wrote a paper <a href=\"http:\/\/science.sciencemag.org\/content\/306\/5702\/1686.full\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">published in <em>Science<\/em><\/a>; she was personally attacked for exposing the truth of a &#8216;science consensus&#8217; on man-caused global warming; her colleagues suggested she speak to Ben Santer who&#8217;d been similarly attacked while doing innocent science work; and she soon learned their mutual attackers were shills of the fossil fuel industry, and her expos\u00e9 of this propelled her <a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/08\/NYTsci-Oreskes-hero.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">into heroic status<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Part of that tale hinges on Dr Santer, <a href=\"https:\/\/pcmdi.llnl.gov\/staff\/santer\/index.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">an atmospheric scientist<\/a>, being supposedly attacked by greedy corporate interests and their shills for simply doing the right thing of altering the text of a finalized, approved chapter within the IPCC&#8217;s 1995 report so that it reflected what everyone already agreed upon.<\/p>\n<p>Wait &#8230; what? That enigma situation right there with Dr Santer really looks hardly different from the fictional one seen famously in the Tom Cruise \/ Jack Nicholson movie, A Few Good Men: &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=2sLcfQKU_co&amp;t=213s\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><em>If you gave an order that Santiago wasn&#8217;t to be touched<\/em><\/a>, <em>and your orders are always followed, then why would he be in danger, why would it be necessary to transfer him off the base?<\/em>&#8220;<!--more--><\/p>\n<p>To understand how Oreskes&#8217; comparison of herself to Dr Santer is faulty on the angle that both were doing something right for the benefit of science, we have to dissect the &#8216;Santer IPCC Chapter 8 situation.&#8217;<\/p>\n<p>At the end of <a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/?p=10617\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">my Part 3<\/a> on Oreskes&#8217; questionable efforts to compare her alleged &#8216;attack victim&#8217; narrative to Dr Santer&#8217;s, I provided <a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/08\/Santer-con-pro.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">a series of links<\/a> of in-depth viewpoints from both sides of the 1995 &#8216;Santer attack&#8217; event. The critics&#8217; side is perhaps still <a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/08\/Seitz-7-11-96-Santer-summary-1024x557.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">best summarized<\/a> in Frederick Seitz July 11 1996 <a href=\"http:\/\/www.sepp.org\/twtwfiles\/2007\/September%201.htm\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">letter to the <em>Wall Street Journal<\/em><\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u2026 . The deadline for reviewers&#8217; comments on Chapter 8 of the IPCC report was July 7, 1995 \u2026, the final draft of Chapter 8 was accepted by a working group of government representatives in Madrid. That identical version was accepted by the full lPCC at the plenary session in Rome the following month. But the version of Chapter 8 that was published was not the version that was approved at the IPCC plenary in Rome.<br \/>\n\u2026 someone connected with the presentation of the published version &#8212; presumably Dr. Santer and others &#8212; rewrote basic technical material in Chapter 8 with the result that scientific doubts about man-made global warming were suppressed.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>A basic deadline end for clarifications or corrections, an approval among government representatives within the <strong><em>Intergovernmental<\/em><\/strong> Panel on Climate Change, and then a subsequent alteration of that already-approved chapter by as little as one single person that significantly changed the tone of what all the represented government officials approved.<\/p>\n<p>Dr Santer didn&#8217;t dispute that he made those alterations.<\/p>\n<p>The <em>New York Times<\/em> August 6, 1996 &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/1996\/08\/06\/science\/at-hot-center-of-debate-on-global-warming.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">At Hot Center of Debate On Global Warming<\/a>&#8221; report unequivocally said that, along with an additional angle <a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/08\/NYT-Santer-alone-alters.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">about the situation<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>He and he alone did indeed alter chapter 8 after the Madrid meeting, he said, because the scientists gathered there accepted the chapter, after long discussion, only on the condition that he do so. The result, he maintains, is a clearer and more accurate statement of the relevant science than the earlier draft.<\/p>\n<p>\u2026 <span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">The post-Madrid revisions left unchanged the chapter&#8217;s basic conclusion<\/span> \u2026. The chapter, which did not require line-by-line approval, provided the underpinning for the Madrid group&#8217;s official finding &#8212; <strong>formally approved word by word \u2026 That conclusion, contained in a separate summary for policy makers, also remains unchanged<\/strong>.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The reference to &#8220;<em>formally approved word by word<\/em>&#8221; regards the &#8220;Summary for Policymakers&#8221; of the IPCC\u2019s Working Group I Report.<\/p>\n<p>Almost two decades later in this 2015 video interview, beginning at the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=EOrUYQhGzT8&amp;t=1466\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">24:26 point<\/a>, Dr Santer basically sidesteps the problem with what was presented as approved chapter text at the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ipcc.ch\/meeting-doc\/11th-session-of-the-ipcc-rome-11-15-december-1995\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">mid-December 1995 Rome plenary session<\/a> in his hit against the Global Climate Coalition&#8217;s criticism:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>They argued that we, the scientists involved in Chapter 8 of the second assessment report .. were guilty of scientific cleansing, purging our chapter of all uncertainty. It was a lie! \u2026 Twenty percent of our chapter was specifically devoted to discussion of uncertainties \u2026 That was really difficult, I think, to get to grips with .. Lying as a calculated strategy .. being able to make the most outrageous claims. Another claim back then was from Fred Singer, that &#8216;changes to the IPCC chapter were made by shadowy political operatives for political purposes, they were not under the control of scientists, they had not been approved by the IPCC,&#8217; all of that stuff was made up!<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Dr Singer never used the words &#8220;shadowy&#8221; or &#8220;political operatives&#8221; <a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/08\/Singer-no-shadowy-1024x724.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">in his July 11 1996 letter to the <em>WSJ<\/em><\/a>. So far, I can&#8217;t find that he&#8217;s used the word &#8220;shadowy&#8221; anywhere in his analysis of the Chapter 8 controversy.<\/p>\n<p>Much more problematic in Dr Santer&#8217;s defense responses and that of his supporters is the absence of addressing how the text seen and approved at the 1995 Rome IPCC plenary session simply didn&#8217;t match with <a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/08\/Santer-altered-final-Ch8.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">what ended up<\/a> in the final publicly distributed 1996 print version of Chapter 8 (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.ipcc.ch\/site\/assets\/uploads\/2018\/02\/ipcc_sar_wg_I_full_report.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">PDF file pages 421-453<\/a>). Compare what&#8217;s <a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/19980629122225\/http:\/\/www.sepp.org\/ipcccont\/item03.htm\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">removed\/added between the 1995 Rome version and the final 1996 version<\/a> \u2014 I say again for emphasis, <a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/08\/Hoover-beforeafter.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">removed\/added<\/a> \u2014 between the two. What Santer&#8217;s substitution <strong><em>does match<\/em><\/strong> is what&#8217;s seen in <a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/08\/SAR-WG1-SPM.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">the Madrid 1995 &#8220;Summary for Policymakers.&#8221;<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Dr Santer contends, best exemplified <a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/19980629122351\/http:\/\/www.sepp.org\/ipcccont\/item08.htm\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">in a June 1996 letter<\/a> he wrote to the <em>Energy Daily<\/em>, that his alterations to Chapter 8 <a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/08\/Santer-EDaily-letter-1024x717.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">didn&#8217;t change its overall meaning<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Did the changes <span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">alter the substance of the scientific conclusions<\/span> of Chapter 8, as the Global Climate Coalition has alleged? The answer is categorically no. The evaluation of the scientific evidence in Chapter 8 was the same before and after the Madrid meeting. <span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">The bottom-line assessment of the science in the Oct. 9th version of Chapter 8 was<\/span> &#8220;Taken together, these results point towards a human influence on climate&#8221;. The final assessment in the now-published Summary for Policymakers is that &#8220;the balance of evidence suggests that there is a discernible human influence on global climate&#8221;. <span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">The latter sentence, which is entirely consistent with the earlier Oct. 9th sentence, was unanimously approved at the Madrid meeting by delegates from nearly 100 countries<\/span>.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The &#8220;<em>Oct. 9th version of Chapter 8<\/em>&#8221; Dr Santer speaks of, with that specific &#8216;<em>discernible<\/em>-less wording,&#8217; was little more than the <a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/08\/SAR-Ch8-Exec-Summary-1024x776.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">two page Executive Summary<\/a>, not the full actual chapter. And the actual chapter itself, at the Rome plenary session, still said &#8220;<span style=\"color: #ff0000;\"><em>None of the studies cited above has shown clear evidence<\/em><\/span><strong><em> that we can attribute the observed [climate] changes to the specific cause of increases in greenhouse gases<\/em><\/strong>.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Not exactly consistent with either the notion that &#8220;<em>these results point towards a human influence on climate<\/em>&#8221; or that the results are &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.merriam-webster.com\/dictionary\/discernible\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">discernible<\/a>,&#8221; is it?<\/p>\n<p>What this all boils down to is elemental: committees should agonize over the precise details and analysis that goes into the final version of a scientific report. A summary of the report should summarize what&#8217;s <strong><em>in<\/em><\/strong> it, and when readers want to see if the full report does indeed support what&#8217;s in the summary, they should never discover that assertions in the summary clearly aren&#8217;t in the report. When your agreed-upon report contains the question, &#8220;<em>When will an anthropogenic effect on climate be identified?<\/em>&#8221; and the immediate next-sentence answer is &#8220;<em>It is not surprising that the best answer to this question is, &#8216;we do not know,&#8217;<\/em>\u201d then your summary should <strong><em>not<\/em><\/strong> state there is a discernible identifier of the anthropogenic effect. How might someone make the summary match what&#8217;s in the already-approved report? By inserting the matching words <em>ex post facto<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>One more telling item from Dr Santer&#8217;s 2015 video interview, starting at <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=EOrUYQhGzT8&amp;t=1225\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">the 20:25 point<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>I remember sitting in a bar in Madrid with Stephen Schneider, the late Stephen Schneider, immediately after the final sentence had been agreed on in the 1995 report, a sentence that&#8217;s forever engraved on my memory, &#8220;the balance of evidence suggests a discernible human influence on global climate,&#8221; and here we are at this bar and Steve says to me, &#8220;<span style=\"color: #ff0000;\"><strong>This changes everything<\/strong><\/span>, your life is gonna be changed forever.&#8221; And I had no idea what he was talking about, I really didn&#8217;t, quite honestly, I was just relieved that the whole thing was done, and I could go back and be a normal scientist again and get back to the research that I loved doing, but he was right.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Chapter 8 certainly was changed <em><strong>after<\/strong><\/em> its approved version in December 1995. But in light of Dr Santer claiming his self-confessed alterations to the Chapter itself didn&#8217;t change the meaning or substance of the chapter, that&#8217;s where the &#8220;<em>If you gave an order that Santiago wasn&#8217;t to be touched, and your orders are always followed, then why would he be in danger, why would it be necessary to transfer him off the base?<\/em>&#8221; enigma arises.<\/p>\n<p>If the agreed-upon Chapter 8 irrefutably already contained clear indications about a definite anthropogenic effect on climate, why would there be any need to alter it?<\/p>\n<p>Is that not a valid question to ask? Naomi Oreskes instead portrays Dr Santer this situation as <em>personally<\/em> attacked by greedy corporate interests for simply stating a simple honest truth about a settled science conclusion, and <strong>one<\/strong> of her two story variations of what propelled her into being a hero exposing one of the &#8216;shills connected to the same sinister industry interests&#8217; hinges on her comparison to Dr Santer as an innocent attack victim.<\/p>\n<p>How many additional problematic angles are there to her &#8216;Santer comparison&#8217; story?<br \/>\n&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;<br \/>\nNext in this series, <a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/?p=11013\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Part 5: &#8220;Santer didn&#8217;t tell anybody \u2026 \u201d<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>To briefly recap the salient points of Naomi Oreskes&#8217; tale of how Dr Ben Santer (as opposed to Erik Conway) was the catalyst leading her to expose skeptic climate scientists as &#8216;corporate-paid\/corrupted merchants of doubt&#8217;: she innocently wrote a paper &hellip; <a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/?p=10661\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[156],"tags":[159,160,4,31],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/10661"}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=10661"}],"version-history":[{"count":21,"href":"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/10661\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":17343,"href":"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/10661\/revisions\/17343"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=10661"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=10661"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=10661"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}